When is too much too much?

6/28/2010 6:24:52 PM #

Wow.......Well it is not easy living with someone who has a mood disorder. I have put my family through a lot. Major mood swings to the point I was seeing red and herring things to where I just did not want to get out of bed. I do not think there is a point to where someone should get kicked out. Maybe they could go stay somewhere else for a few days a friend’s house or another family member. I see are mood disorders just the same as a person who has diabetes. When a person with diabetes sugar levels drops to low they have no clue as to what they are doing or what is going on around them. I Know of a few people with diabetes who have went in to lows and become violent. They have bitten someone to where they have bleed, pick someone up and thrown them through a screen door, and they cannot control what they say. I know someone who had a bad low and was strapped down to a stretcher b/c this person was putting up a huge fight. This person busted out of the restraints in doing that this person pulled there shoulder out of socket. Do we kick them out of the house? No we do what it takes to help them if it is feeding them sugar or calling 911. So the point I am getting to is that sometimes there medication needs adjusted to. You never really know when they will have a low. Just like we do not know how we are going to feel or if our medication needs adjusted. So I say no there is not a point to where the family or friends should give up or kick some one out in any medical situation.

Amanda

6/29/2010 8:50:52 AM #

I can't imagine ever giving up, but then again, I'm talking about my child.  And I can't imagine ever giving up on an adult who is struggling to find stability.

I can see where an adult, who has had stability through meds or therapy or both, and repeatedly makes the choice to go off meds, is contributing to their own instability and that would be hard to live with.  It's sort of like living with an alcoholic at times - if you refuse to do what you know you need to do to keep yourself healthy, how much should I be willing to put up with because of your choices?  

Chrisa

6/30/2010 3:53:30 AM #

This is why it's important to be able to have open discussions between the patient and family members. Maybe some education for both sides is needed.  Both sides just need education and to develop action plans for crises.  Boundaries and agreed upon compliance for everyday life should be established too. What if the person with the disorder does not want help? No one can be forced to receive help. But maybe an intervention with family members/friends would be a good idea, along with education, to allow the person to see that they truly would benefit from help...that his/her life would be so much better with the right help.

Holly

7/13/2010 6:40:18 PM #

As someone who has cared for schizophrenics, depressives, dual-diagnosed developmentally disabled, as an in-home caregiver, I know how important 'respite' for a family can be.  Kicked out?  For what, non-compliance for doctor ordered meds?  Some people cannot comprehend the consequences of non-compliance.  5150's are very painful and can result in worsening of an illness.  To look for a better environment for someone if the family becomes toxic, yes. but don't throw them to the wolves.  Some are extremely vulnerable.

I am diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, exacerbated by trauma and loss, tendencies toward anxiety(if  don't sleep right), and depression.  I was fully functional until 2-1/2 years ago.  A judge and my disability attorney broke the news to me of the BPD at my hearing.  I had no clue until then.  Maybe they were afraid I would bite whoever told me first!  I am 55 years old and that was quite a blow!  I also have emphysema, quickly advancing RA and severe osteoporosis, so I find myself on SSDI, suddenly, after nearly 40 years  of being a productive citizen whose family has always thought of as just a little  'difficult' or 'fragile'.  I take no medications.  I keep to myself. I'm trying to branch out socially, as 'disability' is terribly isolating.  I'm afraid to inflict myself on others and form relationships.  I'm afraid I'll hurt them somehow---emotionally, I mean.  I reach out on social networks and it starts raining men.  I'm a poet and intriguing in print--I feel like a fraud.  I'm not.  I speak from the heart.  I can't imagine ever being kicked out for being sick, though family caregivers of the extremely mentally ill are sainted in my view.  Unless they fear harm or become unable to help.  Then there is a social safety net.  ILS, welfare, behavioral health, social services.  

Michele

8/10/2010 10:50:18 PM #

This is why it's important to be able to have open discussions between the patient and family members. Maybe some education for both sides is needed.  Both sides just need education and to develop action plans for crises.  Boundaries and agreed upon compliance for everyday life should be established too. What if the person with the disorder does not want help? No one can be forced to receive help. But maybe an intervention with family members/friends would be a good idea, along with education, to allow the person to see that they truly would benefit from help...that his/her life would be so much better with the right help

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